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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 23, 2014 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

You just have to love this place for the sheer statistically improbable number of (smart)assholes infesting the joint such as yourself, b'devil, SDH, Mando, arb, when he graces us with his presence, my long-departed and greatly missed brother Dire, and sundry other goodfellas (yes you too, micah). It's what goes on sucking me right back in despite my best endeavours to make a clean break.

But I digress, social impact and a fanatical following does not necessarily a cast iron rock'n'roll band make - evidence M. Cyrus, Beiber and One Direction, for example. And those Nazis, shit but they had cool uniforms, huh? Beat yer tie-dye into a snivelling corner anyhow. :-)

(aside - do you still have my email? If so, could you wing me yours and elb's please? Had a technomeltdown and lost a whiole lot of stuff recently. Thank you!)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 23, 2014 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

That's not all that goes on sucking you back in...

Bleat, bleat.

And going back to your thought on Bruce and Company giving the Dead an atomic wedgie, I have to agree. Bruce as a performer is at the top of the heap (along with the likes of Jagger and Tyler). The Dead could never compete with that (although Bob did try, bless his denim short-wearing heart). Without that larger than life front man, the Dead would always be playing to a more select audience, relying almost entirely on the music itself to draw people in. Bruce has the trifecta of music, incredible lyrics and performance. Hard to compete with that package. And I know you like a good package. Sure, folks around here (myself included) will argue that the Dead beat Bruce on the music side, but the other two? Nope (IMHO, anyway)

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2014-01-23 20:45:03

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 23, 2014 1:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

I hope everyone understands that I'm not doing down the Dead as a great bunch of musicians. In the course of a single show they could effortlesly move from being the world's greatest bar band to the world's greatest jam band, to the world's greatest rock band, to the world's greatest you pick your category. But let's face it, they were never great with the consistency of The Band, or the E Streeters, and sometimes they could downright suck. Then again, isn't that what kept us all coming back - waiting for that moment when they flat out, indisputably nailed it?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 24, 2014 6:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

Agreed. Could Bruce and others still maintain a huge following if they had as many weak shows as the Dead did, especially in the later years when their popularity was at it zenith? I don't think so. Fans today expect each and every show to be equally large (and for the price of tickets, can you blame them?). The fact that the Dead could be the highest grossing live act year after year is a true testament to the loyalty of their fan base, even if there were more misses than hits.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2014-01-24 14:00:57

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 24, 2014 7:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

That was some what my point w saying the "touring w the DEAD" eclipses most anything assoc w Bruce et al. EG, during the 90s, we heard a great deal about Phish "replacing" the DEAD, etc., etc.; anything to do w Bruce & co slipped under the radar, at least for my kids, all three of which came of age then, and were into music in a huge way...he was always a big draw but it really wasn't much different that other "big names" each decade (the only difference being Bruce et al were still around four decades later I suppose...but, so was Tom Petty; in fact, many talked more about him than Bruce, now that I recall).

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 24, 2014 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

Oh, that was your point.

I guess it falls to me to take your ideas and rephrase them so people actually know what you're talking about.

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to let me handle your tax return this year. I mean, how long will Uncle Sam keep saying "What the hell is this supposed to mean?" before he decides to give you some special attention?

No, not that kind of special attention. That comes after you've been arrested, or after accepting Rob's invitation for a "casual" dinner.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 24, 2014 9:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

Nice try, but I am afraid "...kinda my point..." is ultra nice guy code for "look, dumbass, my point completely and utterly CONTAINED each and every worthwhile implication of yours, therefore rendering it superfluous, so STFU"...

Does that help?

;)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 24, 2014 9:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

What's "Ultra Nice Guy Code" for Blow Me?

Wait, I remember: "Great point. Your towering intellect is rivaled only by your magnanimous spirit. If only we could all strive to be more like you, this planet would become a better place"

Dammit, now I've got to remember how to clean bile off of footwear all over again.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 24, 2014 10:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

Hmm, the amazing thing is, that's largely true; of course, now everyone want's to throw up, but hey, if the shoe fits, wash it off and keep wearing it, dude.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 23, 2014 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'The Greatest American Rock Band'?

Yes, your daughter, SDH (hmmm, those should NEVER be next to each other, eh?), my son & wife (there, put her at SOME distance from SDH!) all seem to agree...and they only saw Bruce & e et al. in the past few yrs...Clarence was helped on and off stage, and they loved him and the show, etc., etc., etc.

Sending email shortly.